Hi Pen -

Good to hear from you :big grin:

Pen:
"It probably started out that way Jeff, but I do not believe that is the reason in this day and age… I believe its about control. Even the other month an Englísh couple were seen kissing in public…(I think in Saudi Arabia)… and were thrown in jail, they are lucky to be alíve…. And not put to death. So there is more going on about this."

This case happened in the United Arab Emirates [UAE]



About the woman and the man in the car... well, i do see your point of view, but do not be surprised if that lady in the burka would not be angry at you if you approached her in that manner. this could be seen as an attack on her beliefs.

I see those small group in Persia, and central Asia and maybe Africa, who walk on burning coals and eat fire and etc...

Here in America at least it is very important not to stamp on another person's ways, even when they seem incredibly extreme or outright nuts. Jésus teaches not to judge others. Though I too struggle with this, I learn each day how to better handle it so as to condition my mind and thought process to minimize and hopefúlly one day completely do away with judging folks on my limited perception of the situation, until facts present themselves so that I can make a determination, instead of a judgment.

So, all I am really saying is that if I were driving down the road, hot as hell, and saw the same thing like you, I would have probably cóme to a similar conclusion, but would all the facts about those two have presented themselves with just a small glimpse?

Perhaps. If one were so inclíned. If it were one of those moments in time where one might catch a feeling or energy or a deep thought during that glimpse, to attain a truer perspective of those two individuals in the car as it passed by. I believe in that Pen. And if you tell me you just had a gut feeling that chick was suffering, then I believe you. i wouldn't doubt it. But not all the time we get those gut feelings and the appearance of things are not always what they seem.

Just throwing up some thoughts! :mrgreen:

Don't worry too much about those men who do that kinda thing as a means of control...of course there is an atoning for such things, even if God forgives the person in the end, the spírit must be cleansed and this is an intense process. It would be punishment enough I am sure. Best correctional facility in the universe: God. :Flying Angel: Surely not government institutions :Cat: