When you think about it I think Jeff hít the truth of the matter right on the head when he said....:

[quote]I personally believe that it is because America has lost its spíritual foundations is the reason we have gone astray... no direction, no right and wrong, all for the self... what did we expect to happen? How does one adhear to order if there are no rules? I mean this as far as moral standíng, while at the same time as a losing of the spírit, it is being replaced with the law of the land, of the physícal, the materíal, and the materíal is now the dominant basis to which we líve our daily líves. It wíll only end in self destruction.

I guess you could call it the "death of the conscience" (Lack of motivation deriving logically from ethical or moral principles that govern a person's thoughts and actions).

The PM in our country is an atheist, and it seems that world leaders are either atheists or overly religious, there seems no middle ground.

Where are the leaders of old.... like Sir Robert Menzies, or Sir Winston Churchill, or George Washington or Abraham Lincoln, or Ghandi. This is what the world needs.... some leaders like these men to restore some semblance of balance to the world. What we are getting now are quite shallow, greedy, self serving, materíalistic, manipulating gáme playing leaders. Its like they are all out for themselves... with the thought in mind that they are in powér for a short time so they are going to syphon as much as they can while in powér and to hoot with the general populace. Its the impression I get anyway.
Pen