Yeah, you're stepping in some complicated areas in the surveillance world now Pen. It's nearly impossible to explain how and why it does or does not work. Worse yet, both results are intentional. They should have never started under the premise they did. Definitely not the version Obama escalated it to. People are only willing to tolerate it for so long. And then there's the issue where it takes on a life of its own, and runs to other nations as one decides to drop it for whatever reason(s). I sense that on the verge of happening now. It's like it's alive, and escapes to other places, in order to avoid being killed. History is loaded with stories about this. It insanely rides a wave of human nature. As one group drops it, the practice will jump to the next group, like fleas or something. That's why I was so upset when they first started it. The planet always has a hard time ridding itself of the practice. It takes a lot of time. Time at peace.