icepick wrote:
So do you think that article 215 is really dead Pen? Legally it is, but in my opinion Obama invested far too much in it for him to simply allow all of that to go away. In short, I don't trust him, and there's not enough oversight. I'm sure he will try to keep it running in secret.

Still, it's hard to miss the fact that nearly every western nation has been acting like it's dead since Paul blocked the vote, and have been maneuvering to do it themselves. Were that many nations buying data from us?
The way I see it Tim is that if they have spent literally trillions and trillions of dollars on setting this up, and with each new technological advancement adding to their power they are not going to give it up.  If they have truly stopped it they will find other avenues to keep it going, and using other countries to do so, that are part of their arrangement.  I am sure they thought of everything to keep it going.  


"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us."  ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson ~